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In Part One, we examined the case that was made much of last season and in the offseason that the team didn’t need Rudy Gay due to how well the team played without him, his big contract, and quite frankly, just because trade talk is fun. Today, we’ll look at the other side of the coin, given how well the team is playing sans Zach Randolph. After all, turnabout is fair play, right? So, what if they decided to trade Z-Bo, rather than paying him all that money when the team is able to keep on rolling without him?

A King’s Ransom
Memphis gets: Marcus Thornton, DeMarcus Cousins, J.J. Hickson
Sacramento gets: Zach Randolph, Sam Young

Memphis would get two big bodies in return for Z-Bo, as well as a solid SG in Thornton which would make re-signing O.J. Mayo unnecessary. Also, Hickson is an expiring deal, so they would be able to sign a backup PG with those savings. Cousins has been something of a head case, but so was Zach at one time. Talent > Attitude on Beale Street though, where it is Lionel Hollins’ team, and what he says goes.

A Legend Returns (suggested to me this week)
Memphis gets: Greg Monroe, Ben Gordon, Will Bynum
Detroit gets: Zach Randolph, O.J. Mayo

Obviously, Monroe is the prize in this deal, but in order to get him, you pretty much have to take either Gordon or Tayshaun Prince off of the Pistons’ hands for them. Otherwise, this would just be Monroe and Rodney Stuckey for Z-Bo. The last thing this team needs is another SF, so we opt for the former UConn standout. That makes Mayo somewhat superfluous, so we include him in the deal and get Bynum as a potential veteran backup PG. This sends Zach back to the state of Michigan, where he was a college star and national champion. Monroe is still on his rookie deal, so he’d be “cheap” for another couple of years.

Another Inter-Divisional Trade With Houston

Memphis gets: Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic
Houston gets: Zach Randolph, O.J. Mayo, Jeremy Pargo

We make a trade with Houston every year anyways, right? This one is intriguing for a variety of reasons, not the least of which because we’d see Z-Bo 4 times per year if it happened. Martin > Mayo; Randolph > Scola; Dragic > Pargo. I think we can all agree on that. Dragic comes off the books this summer, but could be re-signed for a reasonable price if he pans out. Martin is a free agent after next season, and is capable of being a starter or 6th man at the SG spot. Scola is one of those guys you love when he is on your team, but hate when he plays for the other guys. He’d be great at both post positions, too. I actually kinda like this one….which is why it would never ever happen, of course.

The Return of Gasol
Memphis gets: Pau Gasol
Los Angeles gets: Zach Randolph

C’mon, you know it had to be said. And you cannot tell me that you’re not intrigued by the thought of seeing what the Gasol brothers could do as a tandem in the NBA, rather than opponents.

*crickets chirping*

No…that’s actually everyone’s blood pressure shooting through the roof.

Let’s move on, shall we?

Pipe Dream

Memphis gets: Chris Duhon, Ryan Anderson, ……oh yeah, Dwight Howard
Orlando gets: Zach Randolph, O.J. Mayo, Marreese Speights

Yeah, the title says it all, but it’s fun to dream, right? Orlando is likely to lose him anyways, so why not get a more complete player in return, if not as good of a player? Memphis also gives up two talented young players in return for two scrubs, but when you’re getting the best center in the game, that tends to happen. Throw in a future draft pick or two, and OKC fully craps their pants……and so does Miami. Chicago doesn’t — because they have a hard-nosed coach, just like the Grizzlies do. Everyone else cries into their pillow.

In our next installment, we’ll examine several smaller trades that might actually occur before next week’s trade deadline. As always, leave your thoughts and/or trade proposals in the comments section.

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18 Responses to Trade Rudy? Trade Zach? Trade everybody? Part Two

  1. JoffoNo Gravatar says:

    the hosuton trade is the only realistic one that i could possibly bear, not that i want it to happen in the slightest.
    But ryan anderson scrub? Last year maybe, but hes been a boss this season

  2. JonathanNo Gravatar says:

    There is no way Ryan Anderson is a scrub. He’s better than both Speights and Cunningham. Anderson has been productive in limited playing time in previous years, now he finally has the playing time to put up numbers. He’s also rebounding at a respectable rate considering who he plays next to.

  3. btrautscNo Gravatar says:

    Ah, I love these. First though – I love Zach. But with the team playing so well, I am positive that in his first 10 days back – if the games are shaky for the Grizz and Zach looks to be at least 90% – Wallace will be fielding a ton of calls and emails.

    Not to mention the Grizz have 3 contracts expiring to just over 10M, and they would rather trade for a long term piece(s) than renegotiate with OJ and friends.

    So, if we decide we must move Zach….

    MEM gets – Josh Smith, Marvin Williams (aka length, flexibility, defense)
    ORL gets – Al Horford, OJ Mayo, Speights + at least a 1st round pick
    ATL gets – Dwight, Zach

    ATL gets a trio of Howard, Randolph, Johnson
    ORL starts rebuilding with Horford, Anderson, + probably 2 picks
    MEM improves defense, length financial situation

    GS & MEM
    GS gets – Zach Randolph
    MEM gets – Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh

    This almost makes scary sense if the Grizz still have a desire for Ellis. He is clearly a dynamic scorer, and GS def wants to move him. Monta running with Conley & Gay is dangerous, and Ellis ability to take offensive pressure off Rudy would be ideal. Udoh is a long term piece who is performing well. The Grizz probably move Mayo in a side deal for picks shortly after.

    IND & MEM
    IND gets – Mayo, Young, Randolph (hometown hero)
    MEM gets – West, Paul George, Hansborough

    This makes decent sense as well. IND is setting the stage for a playoff run, and Zach (assuming full or close to full return) is an upgrade from West. Mayo is a player they’ve coveted and is more dynamic right now then George.
    Memphis still has a solid PF threat with West, and a long term piece with Paul George (good scoring young wing). Hansborough adds good depth in the front court & Memphis likely has enough money in the summer to go after a veteran PG (or just save money)
    MEM also likely swings Mo Speights to a “contender” (BOS, MIA, LAC) for a late first round pick after the deal.

    I’m just saying, these deals make some sense…

    • Lee Eric SmithNo Gravatar says:

      Those deals only make sense when it comes to the Grizz NOT winning.

      • btrautscNo Gravatar says:

        Well, the thing is the Grizz are winning now. So inevitably adding a new cog to the machine will change things…

        I think the whole point of these discussions is to think about the bigger picture balanced with how the team will change in the coming weeks.

        That’s why these are interesting – who knows? I am particularly fond of the Golden State scenario because of the cap relief, long term flexibility, and still improved roster (compared to currently active players).

        I mean, the front office has to be working hard on the future issues:
        40M of the teams typically sub Salary Cap of <$58M going forward will be for 4 players.

        Youth movement is quickly disappearing as our core is cemented, but we've lost young talents like Xavier Henry, Vazquez, and the unknown status of Arthur, Mayo going forward.

  4. GermanGrizzFanNo Gravatar says:

    All of those trade scenarios are downright stooopid!! We’re one of the hottest teams in the league right now and bound to get Z-Bo back… We don’t need to trade our best player!!! The way we are trending we can get to the West finals, at least. Let’s not screw up the best era of Grizzlies basketball by messing with our chemistry. This is our shot at something big this year, if we don’t get far in the playoffs we can still make deals next year in order to get better.

    Mayo is the only player I’d consider expendable, if we can net a comparable SG and a solid back-up PG in return… which probably won’t happen since the rest of the league doesn’t overrate him like many Grizzlies fans do. He’s like that shiny sports car you dream of having (athletic wing player with a sweet stroke), but once you have it, you notice that it’s very cost-ineffective and uncomfortable to drive (high salary for a volume shooter who isn’t a great defender and cares more about his stats than the team).

  5. ljungNo Gravatar says:

    No trades need to be made. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

  6. Joe SmithNo Gravatar says:

    We should NEVER look at trading Zach Randolph. He’s part of why Marc Gasol and Darrell Authur became the stars they are. Look at the Grizz gut setup next year PF in Randolph/Authur and C Gasol/Speights. This is the trade I did in the machine and it works out well for Memphis.

    Memphis Sends – OJ Mayo (LA), Pargo (Hou)
    Memphis Receives – Fisher (LA), Courtney Lee (Hou), and Kapano (LA)

    LA Sends – Gasol (Hou), Fisher (Mem), Kapano (Mem)
    LA Receives – Mayo (Mem), Scola (Hou), Lowry (Hou)

    Houston Sends – Lee, Scola, Lowry
    Houston Rcvs – P Gasol, Pargo

    I’m sure draft picks would have to go in there. But this instantly turns Memphis into the best team in the West. You lose the streaky OJ Mayo for a SF that does the same thing (Kapano), a SG in Lee (same kind of roll as well), and a LEGITIMATE back up PG. Line up of
    Conley / Fisher
    Allen / Lee
    Gay / Kapano
    Randolph / Speights
    Gasol / Haddadi

    Throw in Sam Young and Cunningham for good minutes and this teams wins the west.

  7. EvanNo Gravatar says:

    A veteran PG that could shoot the 3-ball would make this team virtually complete, in my opinion.

  8. Allen BlackNo Gravatar says:

    First of all, I love Zack Randolph! However the logical trade that needs to be made to address most of our needs for both now and over the next few years to crate cap-space is this. Trade Randolph, Young and Pargo to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins, Jimmer Fredette and 6 ft. 11 in. SF Donte Greene. This not only preserves our current Team chemistry for the Playoff run as is but makes us younger with players that immediately fill voids and frees up about 8 million dollars in cap space needed to re-sign Mayo, Arthur, Speights and Haddadi next year.

  9. AlexNo Gravatar says:

    Talent wise, the Detroit and Sac deals are the best. Still, no reason to do any of these.

  10. AlexNo Gravatar says:

    Still, I’d do the Dwight deal in a heartbeat….I think. Orlando, they would not.

  11. rimsonNo Gravatar says:

    The Dwight deal would require Gasol before a discussion could begin…..You know they ought to at least inqure about this. I’d love to see a twin towers with Gasol and Dwight, but I can see someone in San Antonio having a nervous break down if this was even rumored.

  12. WillNo Gravatar says:

    O.J. for a young true combo-guard with a full rookie contract and 1-year back-up for Marc before Ben retires… Not likely to happen but legitimately good for everyone.

  13. AlexNo Gravatar says:

    That would most definitely NOT happen. And suppose for a second that, theoretically, Detroit doesn’t hang up the phone immediately after Wallace makes the proposal, asking for a throw in would be ludicrous. The Pistons plan on building around Knight and Monroe long term. They wouldnt have any interest in a rental

  14. presidentjoeNo Gravatar says:

    Only two trades I like on here are the kings and pistons. The rest are regressive. Memphis will not initiate a deal while they are winning. Stiil think getting Beasley for mayo and Sam would make the most sense for both teams.

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